Brutus Beefcake Says Hulk Hogan Thinks TNA Isn't In It to Win

[Brad]

In an interview with I Met a Wrestler, Brutus Beefcake had a interview where he discussed Hulk Hogan's apparent mindset about TNA:

"He was trying to help them. In my opinion, they seemed to want to make a difference at first, but then it seemed like they just didn't want to win. Hulk's a guy who wants to make a difference and wants to win, you know? And once he realized that they didn't want to win, and all they want to do is make an event and have a little piece of the little corner of the market and be satisfied with that, he's just had to say "Okay, if that's what you want then that's what you're gonna get." It doesn't look good, but I wish him the best."

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[SCpiinndaelr]

So... he's saying that HH is now half-assing it? (as if he wasn't before?)

[Dr Nash]

tell me what has hogan done for tna for the past year. screwed over a few wrestlers over his ego. the power of the wwe hall of fame ring. ugg. brutus has always been hogans tag along bud.

[Metalitia]

To put it another way:

"Hulk didn't understand all the aspects there are between the WWE's level and that of TNA. He thought if he came on board that they'd surge in the ratings and threaten WWE like WCW used to. Now he's realised that isn't gonna happen his enthusiam has waned."

[KANESHOW]

Well for just Hogan being there isn't gonna make TNA better. In order for them to win they need to do something new and crazy. I have to say good luck on that cause don't think anybody could come up with something new in wrestling. It has all been done before.

[Sabin Shelley Army]

To put it another way:

"Hulk didn't understand all the aspects there are between the WWE's level and that of TNA. He thought if he came on board that they'd surge in the ratings and threaten WWE like WCW used to. Now he's realised that isn't gonna happen his enthusiam has waned."

Well for just Hogan being there isn't gonna make TNA better. In order for them to win they need to do something new and crazy. I have to say good luck on that cause don't think anybody could come up with something new in wrestling. It has all been done before.

If TNA can't get big audiences in the US, then they should tape Impact in the UK and India much more often. They should also focus more on New York since that's their best US market. That's one way to help make TNA look bigger. Other than that suggestion, there's more that TNA can do. They are taking smaller steps though, so Hogan will have to be patient. He didn't help WCW until the NWO angle started, so compare TNA's 2010-2011 to WCW's 1994-1995. Maybe if Hogan could come up with something good, then TNA could have its explosion like WCW did in 1996.

TNA is finally making improvements on their show, but I don't want Hogan to come back and ruin it.

[198d]

hogan is just now learning what everyone else knew when tna rehired russo

[Sidney Evans]

If TNA can't get big audiences in the US, then they should tape Impact in the UK and India much more often. They should also focus more on New York since that's their best US market. That's one way to help make TNA look bigger. Other than that suggestion, there's more that TNA can do. They are taking smaller steps though, so Hogan will have to be patient. He didn't help WCW until the NWO angle started, so compare TNA's 2010-2011 to WCW's 1994-1995. Maybe if Hogan could come up with something good, then TNA could have its explosion like WCW did in 1996.

TNA is finally making improvements on their show, but I don't want Hogan to come back and ruin it.

Well WCW did have help with Ted Turner's money and being on TNT and TBS which is superior network then Spike, plus WWF was struggling financially and was on the same playing field as WCW. So TNA will have to do alot more then what WCW did in order to reach WCW success.

And all of Impact shows should be taped in NYC then Orlando, and all of the PPVs should be on the road. They need to have more shows take place in bigger venues then small ones holding 100-500 people in it.

[198d]

If TNA can't get big audiences in the US, then they should tape Impact in the UK and India much more often. They should also focus more on New York since that's their best US market. That's one way to help make TNA look bigger. Other than that suggestion, there's more that TNA can do. They are taking smaller steps though, so Hogan will have to be patient. He didn't help WCW until the NWO angle started, so compare TNA's 2010-2011 to WCW's 1994-1995. Maybe if Hogan could come up with something good, then TNA could have its explosion like WCW did in 1996.

TNA is finally making improvements on their show, but I don't want Hogan to come back and ruin it.

not true, hogan's first ppv not only was a hige hit for wcw but was the first time wcw outsold a wwf ppv. hogan helped wcw out from the get go

[Brad]

Well WCW did have help with Ted Turner's money and being on TNT and TBS which is superior network then Spike, plus WWF was struggling financially and was on the same playing field as WCW. So TNA will have to do alot more then what WCW did in order to reach WCW success.

And all of Impact shows should be taped in NYC then Orlando, and all of the PPVs should be on the road. They need to have more shows take place in bigger venues then small ones holding 100-500 people in it.

On the topic of PPV I think TNA needs to have just 4 ppvs a year like Lockdown, Slammiversary, Destination X, and Bound For Glory that would help them being able to do them on the road and more time to build them up. Other than that only way they will be able to save money to take ppv on the road is release their big contact people they don't need like Hogan, Flair, Eric, and RVD. If HH doesn't think it is a win then why waste money the idiot and why he is wasting him time in TNA if he doesn't think it is worth it?

[Sabin Shelley Army]

not true, hogan's first ppv not only was a hige hit for wcw but was the first time wcw outsold a wwf ppv. hogan helped wcw out from the get go

Yeah, that's true, but things ended up declining quickly though. I would guess it had to do with Hogan making guys like Flair, Vader, and others look like cartoon characters while he destroyed them.

= If HH doesn't think it is a win then why waste money the idiot and why he is wasting him time in TNA if he doesn't think it is worth it?

He needs the money, so there's that. TNA doesn't have a good excuse for keeping him...unless he's bringing them endorsement deals or something like that.

[198d]

Yeah, that's true, but things ended up declining quickly though. I would guess it had to do with Hogan making guys like Flair, Vader, and others look like cartoon characters while he destroyed them.



He needs the money, so there's that. TNA doesn't have a good excuse for keeping him...unless he's bringing them endorsement deals or something like that.

declining compared to what? wcw still made more with hogan than they did without him, a lot of that might be because of bischoff, but still wcw made more money when hogan came onboard 1994- wcw outsells a wwf ppv 1995- wcw gets a primetime spot on cable tv 1996- wcw destroys wwf in ratings

[4 Gold Scorpio]

Hogan's problem IMO is that he's still stuck in the 1980's mentality that worked then with him being the top guy leading WWE but he hasn't gotten that times have changed & so has the audience. Alot of the decisions he's been involved with in TNA have flopped & for good reason because it was the same thing he did in WCW where it's a different audience & different time. Plus he needs to look out for what's best for business & know what he was getting himself into because it was clear to me that he didn't pay much (if any) attention to TNA before signing & coming on based off the things he changed. Clearly he doesn't care anymore & it's a part time paycheck based off his actions like not mentioning TNA half the time he's there & making negative comments about the talent (in some cases, burying) them whenever he does mention them in his tweets & interviews.

not true, hogan's first ppv not only was a hige hit for wcw but was the first time wcw outsold a wwf ppv. hogan helped wcw out from the get go

Yeah, that's true, but things ended up declining quickly though. I would guess it had to do with Hogan making guys like Flair, Vader, and others look like cartoon characters while he destroyed them.

declining compared to what? wcw still made more with hogan than they did without him, a lot of that might be because of bischoff, but still wcw made more money when hogan came onboard 1994- wcw outsells a wwf ppv 1995- wcw gets a primetime spot on cable tv 1996- wcw destroys wwf in ratings

When Hogan came into WCW, they did get a huge boost & Bash At The Beach was the first time WCW outsold a WWE PPV but WCW did start to decline back to the level they were at before a few months afterwords because they began to lose their hardcore audience with some of the decisions being made like how Sting was reduced to cameo appearances during the first four months Hogan was there while the other top guy the company had in Flair was booked to look like a comedic fool half the time & they took him off TV for 3 months as well, the booking of the main event scene with Hogan facing guys like Brutus Beefcake with Starrcade of that year getting one of the lowest buyrates in WCW history while his feud with Vader had both guys refusing to job to each other for 6 months, the Dungeon Of Doom angle with all the cartoon heels, guys like Steve Austin being held back & down after being built up as a star for months before Hogan got there & had his best friend in Jim Duggan beat Austin on PPV in 15 seconds...Hogan came into WCW & got his friends the titles & the paydays which is similar to what we first saw in TNA when he got all the people on his Australia tour jobs & pushes along with his other friends like The Nasty Boys. In WCW, wasn't a steady rise in money & ratings because they were falling back down & not making as much as they initially did once the hype of "Hogan Comes To WCW" died down & the audience saw a bunch of changes that they didn't like or approve of...it was when WCW decided to ditch trying to be a 1980's WWE cartoon character copycat & go the direction of the nWo with the more realistic approach that they had the steady rise & boom.

[Sidney Evans]

Hogan's problem IMO is that he's still stuck in the 1980's mentality that worked then with him being the top guy leading WWE but he hasn't gotten that times have changed & so has the audience. Alot of the decisions he's been involved with in TNA have flopped & for good reason because it was the same thing he did in WCW where it's a different audience & different time. Plus he needs to look out for what's best for business & know what he was getting himself into because it was clear to me that he didn't pay much (if any) attention to TNA before signing & coming on based off the things he changed. Clearly he doesn't care anymore & it's a part time paycheck based off his actions like not mentioning TNA half the time he's there & making negative comments about the talent (in some cases, burying) them whenever he does mention them in his tweets & interviews.







When Hogan came into WCW, they did get a huge boost & Bash At The Beach was the first time WCW outsold a WWE PPV but WCW did start to decline back to the level they were at before a few months afterwords because they began to lose their hardcore audience with some of the decisions being made like how Sting was reduced to cameo appearances during the first four months Hogan was there while the other top guy the company had in Flair was booked to look like a comedic fool half the time & they took him off TV for 3 months as well, the booking of the main event scene with Hogan facing guys like Brutus Beefcake with Starrcade of that year getting one of the lowest buyrates in WCW history while his feud with Vader had both guys refusing to job to each other for 6 months, the Dungeon Of Doom angle with all the cartoon heels, guys like Steve Austin being held back & down after being built up as a star for months before Hogan got there & had his best friend in Jim Duggan beat Austin on PPV in 15 seconds...Hogan came into WCW & got his friends the titles & the paydays which is similar to what we first saw in TNA when he got all the people on his Australia tour jobs & pushes along with his other friends like The Nasty Boys. In WCW, wasn't a steady rise in money & ratings because they were falling back down & not making as much as they initially did once the hype of "Hogan Comes To WCW" died down & the audience saw a bunch of changes that they didn't like or approve of...it was when WCW decided to ditch trying to be a 1980's WWE cartoon character copycat & go the direction of the nWo with the more realistic approach that they had the steady rise & boom.

Exactly wCw became good when they became they own thing. Thats what TNA needs to do, become they own thing.

[#HEEL]

Although I never really give Paul Heyman credit for much, I will say that he hit the nail on the head for what TNA should do, in that they should look to where they want to be in 2 years time, and work from there, instead of worrying about the now.