LockDown 2012 Discussion Thread *CONTAINS SPOILERS*

[vantheman77]

I like the story told in the main event between Bobby Roode and James Storm, but the buildup to this was sacrificed for the Bischoff drama, which I'm glad ended but the wrong Bischoff is no longer on Impact Wrestling. They had to end the Bischoff drama quickly.

The match between Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle stole the main event, especially the sick top spot with Hardy doing the Swanton Bomb off the top of the cage.

No titles have changed hands tonight. You think this was better than WrestleMania 28 in terms of match quality and storytelling?

[Necro Botcher]

No titles have changed hands tonight. You think this was better than WrestleMania 28 in terms of match quality and storytelling?

Not even close. This PPV really came off as "filler" more than anything. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm ended the same way CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho in the cage ended.

[RasslingFanatic]

Match #1 Lethal Lockdown

Starting the PPV with this match? At least it isn't the main event. Good idea to give Garrett and Gunner the first 5 or so minutes in the ring. They can protect Garrett the rest of the way, but he can take a good beating. Look for Eric to be the next guy in the cage. He can get some cheapshot on his son, let Gunner go one on one with whoever comes out next. Let's see if that is where they go with it. Gunner is very good at coming across intense, but he doesn't seem to have 'it' Looks like Bully Ray time, interesting. Garrett does sell very well, which is a skill the so called smart mark never pays attention too in general. He can sell and shows fire, but needs to sharpen his game in OVW for a while.

Next in is, Austin Aries to a decent pop. I don't think he is over enough to be a face full time, so I'd like to see him do a Rock (1998 Survivor Series), heel turn.

Kazarian is next with a haircut and zero reaction from the Nashville, crowd.

AJ Styles next, with by far the biggest pop of the night so far. Please TNA, book this guy with the respect his talent deserves. Make him the babyface Franchise of that company. He should be recognise as one of the best workers in the business today. Hardy, Storm and A.J Styles are their best babyfaces.

Next is Daniels, who should play a big part in this match. Remember this feud with A.J Styles and there really wasn't much a payback for A.J.

The heels are really controlling the match at this point, with the babyfaces not getting much of an advantage at any stage.

Mr. Anderson gets a decent pop on the way in. The key to these matches, considering how long they are is to have over stars and a heated feud. I would remove the Lockdown concept, and use this match sparingly as a specially match different from WWE.

Eric Bischoff with some decent heat. Eric would be a perfect manager. He can talk, gets heat and is able to take bumps. Put him with someone who has no personality like Morgan or Crimson.

Next is RVD and it is official, that A.J Styles is the most over guy in this match. RVD will get back to that level if he reminds people he is the whole fucking show. Babyfaces have the advantage and here comes the lid baby! I think to get the top of the cage over, they need to have guys try to escape the cage during the early stages of the match. Get it over and get your spots from the top of the cage in.

Eric is hiding in the corner, haha. Cowardly heels, I love em! Here come a bunch of weapon shots. Trash cans are NOT over anymore. Great spot by Styles and Kazarian hanging from the cage roof, into the 5 star frog splash.

Hogan chant as Eric takes the kendo Stick to Garrett. The kids has taken some stiff shots and has my respect for that. Massive heat for Eric Bischoff. Oh snap, Guitar Shot and the match is over. Eric is gone for good...he losses the right to the Bischoff name...but this is wrestling...and a good heel always comes back

Match #2: Motor City Machine Guns vs. Samoa Joe and Magnus (c)

Have I mention how great Joe and Magnus are? Magnus is strong with interviews and Joe is much more over without a microphone in his hand.

Back and forth to open the match with quick tags and double team moves. Amazing that all the psychology in relation to the tag team match has been basically forgotten.

This has been a good match, but the crowd is not into it at all. They did pop for the Sabin power bomb on Joe. Great spots isn't going to get you over anymore, as everything has been done. It is all about characters and stories. Not soap opera stories, but wrestling stories.

Joe and Magnus get the wins, but to the worst sound I think a wrestler can have...a polite round of applause. Please build to an Alex Shelley heel turn, but really should have used Shelley more as a singles guy but display heelish tenancies. Losing streak as a tag team, turn and singles feud. Have Bully Ray cost Aries the X-Division belt against Shelley. Sabin vs. Shelley for the belt, try Aries at main event level. Win-Win!


Match #3 Robbie E vs. Devon (c)
Robbie E with a good promo but TNA really needs to make an effort to build him as a legit wrestler. I think you need that to balance out the goofiness. He is a good wrestler, so the talent to get that over is there just put him in the situations where he can show it. Redesigning the T.V Championship, should be a top priority as well. Get a T.V time limit over and have it defended on every show.

Well that is no good. I would trash the heel out of this, but I remember making that mistake with Bully Ray. I'll give you a chance Devon...oh, Big Rob kills the crowd.

Not the best start to the PPV so far. There has been no heat in any of these matches. This is why all these cage match is a bad idea. It does nothing in these matches but limit the wrestlers and take some heat off of the cage because the fans have seen it the entire night.

Intense promo by Matt Morgan.

Match #4 Velvet Sky vs. Gail Kim (c)

I made some negative comments about Sky last week, but if a blonde who can't even run the ropes yet can be a champion in another company why not velvet? Should be a good match.

Crazy power bomb spot from the top rope. These girls are stealing the show right now. Good finish, good match but I wish it got more time. The one thing TNA does better than anyone else is showcase the Knockouts, but this needed more time.

The Nature Boy! Another guy who needs to be a manager. Could this have been booked on the fly to try and get this crowd involved in the PPV? Crowd has been dead thus for, except for the A.J Styles entrance. Segment seemed to get the crowd up but will be a waste if it doesn't carry over through the rest of the show. Flair has lost the plot by the way.

Match #5 Crimson vs. Matt Morgan

Crimson looks far more comfortable as a heel. The Goldberg push hasn't worked, so see if he can get some heat with this streak. Have him cheat to avoid losing the streak. This is where Kurt Angle is so important and what makes him so great. He and Jeff Hardy are needed to save this PPV and gain some momentum into the Roode/Storm match. The crowd just doesn't care so far.

Why do people wear wrestling belts to the matches?

Decent finish, but only because it gets Crimson being all about winning to protect his streak, over.


Match #6 Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy

This is going to be great, bad hamstring or not. Maybe not, that hamstring is clearly restricting Kurt Angle. Slowing the match down, using the cage and the crowd is getting into it with heat shown towards Kurt.

Oh Shit! Angle Slam from the top rope, amazing effort by Kurt Angle. Great match so far and the crowd seems to have a little bit of a fire lite under them. "This is awesome" chant! ANKLE LOCK! REVERSAL! ANKLE LOCK! That is a nice twist, counter. Twist of Fate! No pinfall attempt, but Jeff is climbing up to be Jeff Hardy. Swanton from the top! Kurt kicks out after a second, and the fans are up!

These two have great chemistry and Kurt Angle is still the man. Straps are down, shirt is off, top of the cage we go. Swanton, from the top of the cage. That ladies and gentleman is how you wake up a crowd! Kurt has hurt his ribs, it appears. He puts on great matches, works hurt and ends up getting hurt and people just want to focus on twitter. Get fucked!

Match #7 EY and ODB (c) vs. Sarita and Rosita

Sarita and Rosita are just so damn hot. Wrestlings odd couple is the only way to describe EY and ODB. ODB is quite over, but this match as a dud.

Main Event: James Storm vs. Bobby Roode

Bobby Roode is the man right now. Listen to him speak and watching the way he carries himself makes me love watching wrestling. This program with Storm is not getting the praise it deserves. I am not going to speak during this match, just post comments at the end.



Victory by Escape Rule should not be part of this match. Clean finish, in the cage.

What a classic wrestling match, but I am unsure about the finish. On the one hand Roode is a great World Heavyweight Champion, but I think TNA needed that feel good moment and Nashville just seemed like the right place. That crowd was clearly there to see this match based on the lack of crowd reaction throughout most of the show. It just feels wrong. Only way to fix this is book the trilogy match...old fashion Dog Collar Match? Roode can't run away, he has no choice but to pin or submit James Storm.

Let me know what you think?

[4 Gold Scorpio]

Not even close. This PPV really came off as "filler" more than anything. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm ended the same way CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho in the cage ended.

Same ending the classic Muraco/Snuka match had too if my memory serves me right.

[The Altyrell]

- Scott Steiner wrote the following on Twitter about the TNA Lockdown attendance:

"The ppv on sunday had a crowd of 2,500-3,000 that had alot of freebies,considering that TNA is Based out of Nashville that is really bad,along with the horrible rating on thursday, Hogan bitchoff n pritchard are going to sink Tna,both bitchoffs got zero reaction during their entrances"

[Roode17]

Angle vs Hardy easy match of the night. Roode vs Storm was solid, shame it wasnt the same level as the grudge match between Storm and Harris at Sacrifice 2007 but never mind. Worst Lethal Lockdown I have ever seen, they need to revamp that fomat or put some hungry talent in there, maybe an X division match with it next year. Crowd size seemed okay, nothing special. But surley they most make a little bit of money compared to Orlando where no one pays, even if it was just 2,000 paying customers? They did seem to botch a lot of stuff today I thought? And someone needs to restart Kazarians career, that man is dying out there atm.